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Catcher has been banned from many schools for its language and content. What's your opinion?

Tuesday, November 17, 2009

SETTING - SECTION 3

Discuss the many places Holden visits on his way home.
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  1. NickNovember 18, 2009 at 9:25 PM

    After Holden leaves the school, he stays at a hotel where he sees a lot of strange people. He goes to a club in the hotel called the Lavender Room where he dances with some older women. After that he goes on a ride in a taxicab to various places. It seems as if Holden had quite an interesting adventure that night.

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  2. Justin PNovember 19, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    True Nick, but in my opinion, atleast in Holden's mind, it was anything but an interesting adventure. Holden never seems to be able to have fun the way he wants it... It's like he's a spoiled brat and everything has to go his way.

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  3. NickNovember 19, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    Yes, I agree Justin. Holden does seem to be very negative in a way. Most people would have enjoyed all the places Holden went to that night, but only Holden seems to see the phony side of people.

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  4. Justin PNovember 19, 2009 at 1:53 PM

    In a way, the novel has settings all over the place; in a bar, in a hotel, dorms... It jumps all over the place, quite similar to Holden and his life; never stagnant and always moving.

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  5. NickNovember 19, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    I agree with Justin. The novel doesn't seem to have one particular setting as it did in the beginning at Pencey. Holden goes to so many different places in these few chapters that I'd probably say the main setting is probably the city of New York.

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  6. milenaNovember 19, 2009 at 2:00 PM

    I agree with Justin as well. It seems as the book progresses the settings seem to become more scattered, as do the thoughts of Holden himself. When he goes to the photo booth he thinks about his friends old girl friend. In the taxi, about where the ducks go when the pond freezes over, and so forth, and about his little sister, Phoebe.

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  7. Adam OkanoNovember 19, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    I agree with the earlier posts that state that Holden never seems to be in one place for very long. He first checks in at a sketchy hotel and then goes to a bar. He there dances with some women from Washington, Oregon but he sees them as too "dopey" and soon leaves as they are rather uninterested in him. He then goes to a different bar to hear a notable piano player but while there he sees someone his brother knew and so he left because he did not like them. He then goes back to his room but while on the way up there he orders a prostitute where he meets in his room but after a few minutes she soon leaves the room because he just wants to talk.

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  8. Sydney ANovember 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM

    In chapter nine till 11, we find Holden in many places. He goes from being in the Taxi, to the Edmont Hotel. When he got bored of sitting in the hotel room alone, he decided to go downstairs to the Lavender Room. After he had a night of dancing, with three older women, he let the Lavender Room, and sat in the hotel lobby for a while.

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  9. RityNovember 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    I think his many transitions from setting to setting is a metaphor for his life, in the sense that he cannot find a place where he feels at home or comfortable with others. He doesn't know where he stands in life, because he's so alone, confused & negative since the death of his brother. He's really just searching to find some kind of comfort, somewhere to feel at home again.

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  10. Sydney ANovember 19, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    And again, in the beginning of chapter 12, Holden is in a taxi cab, going to a different place. When he sees someone he knows through his brother he leaves, then goes back the the hotel and hires a prostitute. But yet, when the prostitute gets there, he doesn't want her for sex. I agree with all the above posts that Holden seems as though he can't stay in one place for a long period of time. We see this with his School's, the girls he associates with, and now with him jumping from place to place while he is in New York. I think it signifies that he can never stay focused on just one thing, he always needs to be doing something better and bigger, and his thoughts are the same way, jumping from Jane, to where the ducks go when the lake freezes, then back to his sister. I think Holden wants something he doesn't have, but I can't quite figure out what it is. He seems so undecided though.

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  11. gurpreetNovember 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM

    In chapter nine we are find n many places. He goes in the text. In the end Holden’s got an excuse for why it's a bad time to call each one of them and they decide.
    In chapter ten Holden thinks his younger sister is again Phoebe She’s skinny and smart beyond her years, and Holden obviously loves her.
    In chapter 11 Holden gets Jane Gallagher on his mind again and Holden said when they lived next door in Maine one summer and the two of them used to play golf and checkers together.
    In chapter 12 finally Holden gets someone to respond about the fate of the ducks Central in the Park.
    In chapter 13 His hands are freezing because his gloves were stolen by some Penney boy, he through some pretty honest meditation upon his own "yellowness".

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  12. Daniel McDonaldNovember 19, 2009 at 3:12 PM

    I agree Rity, Holden truely seems to be alone in life, searching for some purpose which I believe is his personal happiness. He seems to be a very negative person and his narrations rarely show any positive emotion. I feel that Holden's quest for happiness may cause him some problems as he is attempting to drink at bars underage and other troubles in terms of the law.

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  13. D.SNovember 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM

    Holden seems lost in the world and attempts to find comfort by looking at the world as if everyone else is the same way. There is no set place for holden he chooses to go where ever he pleases, which has been mainly in these chapters drinking at the night clubs to try and socialize. It is like once people actually socialize with him he rejects them and moves along. This is increasing his state of lonesome. You can see the desperation for companionship in holden because he always talks about other people, and repeatedly remembers Jane. Also when in chapter 13 he brings a prostitute to his room he shows his desperation but even when she is in the room he does nothing but make another lie to get away from another problem that he created. The main setting i would say in these chapters is in the Edmont Hotel.

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