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Catcher has been banned from many schools for its language and content. What's your opinion?

Friday, November 20, 2009

POINT OF VIEW & LANGUAGE USE - SECTION 4

What do you think about the way Holden tells his story?
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11 comments:

  1. CamNovember 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM

    In this section, Holden continues to use foul language and voice his opinion about everything. Even when talking about something like the bible, which many people hold sacred, he uses foul language and discusses how the disciples are as useful as "a hole in the head". However, Holden also shows he can be respectful and talk like most people of that era. When Holden calls up Sally Hayes and asks her out, he is extremely polite and even uses the worl "swell", common slang for teenagers in the 1950's. Holden also shows how smart and polite he is when talking with the nuns and discusses literature.

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  2. allieNovember 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM

    I was pretty surprised that there was 3 solid pages with no swearing. By now, Holden is pretty much known for swearing every second word but it stops when Sally Hayes is mentioned. I think that girls are Holdens weakness when it comes to being polite and taking down that wall of insecurity, letting some light shine through. Even the Bible didn't do anything to Holdens attitude. But I think, Holden does have some wisdom and brightness in him when it comes to talking about english things hes good at.

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  3. SofiaNovember 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM

    Holdens language doesnt change at all in this section. He swears, judges everyone, and is extremely negative towards the world, but when it came to being kind and curtious he seems to pass. In the past he paid for the girls drinks, now he donated money to the nuns and tryed to pay for their food, and paid for everything on his date with Sally. He has good in him, its just not showing to us. At one point though Holdens language changed like he was possessed by something when he started ranting about how Sally and him should run away together, it caught me off guard.

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  4. AnonymousNovember 23, 2009 at 12:21 PM

    The way Holden tells the story varies a lot. When he is talking about people that he enjoyed being around; like the nuns and the little boy walking down the street singing, he is very descriptive. When he meets up with the nuns he pays a lot of attention to what they’re wearing and their actions. When Holden hears the little boy singing he also is very descriptive and Holden pays a lot of attention to his surroundings. When Holden talks about something’s that he dislikes he seems almost bitter.

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  5. Yi WuNovember 23, 2009 at 12:49 PM

    I personally do not care for the way Holden expresses himself as far as his foul language is constantly spoken. I do like his detail and descriptive writing, you can truly sense his feeling.

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  6. CamNovember 23, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    I agree with what Allie is saying about girls being Holden's weakness; he stops swearing and is extremely polite to all woman throughout the story. In this section he talks very poitely to the nuns and Sally. I am also suprised to hear that there were 3 pages where Holden didn't swear.

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  7. michael-gallagherNovember 23, 2009 at 1:26 PM

    In these chapters Holden continues to be very descriptive with the type of language he uses. He always has an opinion on things, usually a negative opinion but an opinion none the less. At one point in the chapters religion is brought up, I thought Holden would have a stronger opinion on religion one way or the other than he did. He didn't ramble on about it like he does other things like the boy walking on the street. Holden continues to use foul language but as a reader we're pretty used to it by now. He keeps insisting that Sally is a phony. He uses the word phony over and over but he fails to actually give a good reason on why he thinks she is a phony. His point of view on the situation is seemingly just that she is a phony becuase she is a phony. He doesn't need an actual reason to insist she is a phony.

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  8. sarah zaborniakNovember 23, 2009 at 1:40 PM

    Holden has not changed at all throughout the book. He has a negative attitude, and is very blunt. He uses a lot of innapropriate language. He has his own opinion on everything.

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  9. RityNovember 24, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Holden is obviously very immature, & still has a very childish point of view. He isn't very open-minded to things he can't relate to, & immediately dismisses these things as "phony". In chapter 17, Holden goes to see a show at Radio City. He can't relate, & thinks it's extremely phony, & therefor thinks the woman crying through it is also phony. He goes through his mind insulting her purely because she has her own feelings towards the show (which, in my opinion, isn't very phony at all) & because he feels more in relation to the child who is with her, because he's also bored & just wants to go to the washroom. The kid was probably just being as much of a brat as Holden was. Regardless of that opinion, though, he clearly only chooses to feel for those who seem to bare the same emotions/interests as him.

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  10. ZachNovember 29, 2009 at 7:37 PM

    What I consistently keep recognizing is that the language in this book and the way it’s written is repetitive. That’s probably because Holden is pretty talking throughout the whole book. Don’t get me wrong, there multiple parts where Holden’s style of talking changes but not that much. For instance, Holden is always reinforcing his statements or opinions with “He really did” or “Honestly”. In my opinion it’s not a bad thing but not a good thing either. But one thing I have a real problem with is that Holden will start talking about random things for a page or two. Sometimes when I read I start to day dream and not concentrate on what I’m reading and I’ll have to read the whole page again. Well, it feels like a big waste of time when I have to read pages a second time and I learn that it’s just Holden rambling on again about something random, like suitcases or something. Honestly.

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  11. ZachNovember 29, 2009 at 8:02 PM

    One more thing I forgot to mention is that I thought it was interesting when Holden said five dollars was a lot for record because today five dollars seems like nothing at all.

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