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Catcher has been banned from many schools for its language and content. What's your opinion?

Tuesday, November 17, 2009

PLOT - SECTION 3

What's been happening? What are the conflicts?
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9 comments:

  1. RityNovember 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM

    Throughout chapters 9-13, Holden goes on numerous explorations in New York. He takes a few cabs, hops from a few bars, goes for a few walks, meets a handful of people & even eventually ends up setting up an evening with a prositute. Among meeting all these people, he seems to find himself less & less connected to others, only more & more depressed. Everyone appears to be a "phony", or rude. He's constantly irritated by the characters he's encountering in each bar; mainly pairs of 'dumb blonde' stereotypes, & high-strong men. Yet, for a good part of the night, he still keeps trying new bars in hopes to cheer himself up & find something to do while he's still very much awake. Typically, no one at any of these bars seem to have any real intellect, & therefor he finds himself struggling to communicate with others.

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  2. SofiaNovember 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

    From chapter 9-13 Holden has been the most alone ever since he left his school. He tried making conversation with the first cab driver, tryed to meet up with a girl that was recommended to him by a past friend, three girls from Seattle at the bar, the second taxi driver, and then the prostitute.He goes bar hopping all by himself, and never seems to meet anyone and just tends to obsearve other people most of the time. I feel the only close relationship that keeps coming up over and over is his relationship with Jane, the only healthy one he has talked about.

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  3. CamNovember 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    Chapters 9-13 are about Holden after he has left school, gotten a hotel and his very exciting night. Holden ends up going to lots of different bars and chatting up different woman. Holden goes to the hotel bar called the Lavender Room and meets 3 girls. Holden dances with all of these girls but feels they are very stupid and can't take it anymore. He then takes a cab to another bar called Ernie's with a big piano playing "phony". After that, he walks back to the hotel and is encountered by an elevator boy who offers him a hooker. He accepts the offer but does not use her in the way he is supposed too. Holden just wants to talk to her because he is lonely and the chapter ends as she leaves his room.

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  4. allieNovember 19, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    I agree with the last thing that Sofia said. You see Holden trying to become a more soicalable person but ends up just putting on his "charm" ruins what could have been a good thing. Also when he runs into his brothers ex Lillian Simmons and she asks him to sit with them he denys it and leaves. Right there he could of had someone to talk to and to catch up with but he decides that hes too good for them and leaves to go back to the hotle.
    When the prostitute goes to his room, all Holden wants to do is talk, which shows he's not really that much of a pig and has a heart. He could of did what you do with a prostitute but he didn't which is the most gentmanly he has been through this entire book.

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  5. michael-gallagherNovember 19, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    In chapters 9-13 Holden is feeling lonely and he tries to talk to a bunch of people. He called up one girl that he had never even met to come have a drink with him but she wouldn't. Can you blame her? Then he goes to the bar and intrudes on 3 girls from Seatle. He doesn't even like these girls and has nothing good to say about any of them except for the one of them is "not bad." And they don't seem to like him much either. Perhaps they're smarter than he tells us. Holden doesn't seem to like anyone as a matter of fact except for his sister who he describes in these chapters. He swears we as the reader would like her. I don't like it when he does that, when he says "I swear you'd like her, you really would." I find it almost as annoying as when he says things like "Sex is something I just don't understand. I swear to God I don't." I guess that means every thing else he tells us throughout the book when he doesn't say he swears to god after he says it is a lie.

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  6. ZachNovember 19, 2009 at 9:39 PM

    I personally feel that the atmosphere at the beginning of chapter nine is completely different and somewhat refreshing. It feels almost like a fresh start due to Holden leaving Pency and posting up in a hotel for a few days because he wants his family to digest the fact that he got the ax at Pency. But although Holden’s idea sounded good at the time, I personally thought it was a good idea, he finds he is blocked out from communication from everyone he knows, because it is too late in the night or if he phones someone they will tell his parents. So he ends up getting shacked up in a hotel and barren from his actually life. Later that night, Holden tries to meet some new people but could only find three ugly girls, by his opinion, in the Lavender. He dances with them and has interesting conversations with the girls. Unfortunately, that is as far as I have read. But I wonder if Holden will even go home because he may just keep procrastinating and not confront his parents.

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  7. AnonymousNovember 19, 2009 at 10:34 PM

    Throughout these chapters we see Holden struggling. He seems to be struggling with loneliness that kind of leads to depression. In these chapters he is often found trying to develop a relationship with people he does not know. I believe this is because he can not connect with people who are important to him. These people who show importance in his life, include his brother who died, his little sister and Jane. Since he can not connect with the people who are most important to him it drives him to try and find happiness and sanity by communicating with others. This is what leads him to trying to call up an 'easy' girl, dancing with woman who are far older than he is and accepting the offer for a prostitute. Since he is lonely it causes him to be confused in what relationship he is looking for. In the end I think that he realizes that he is not looking for an intimate relationship with a random prostitute, but he knows he just needs to talk to people about how he is feeling. Holden simply needs a friend; like Jane, Allie or Phoebe, who will listen to him and understand his feelings.

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  8. michael-gallagherNovember 19, 2009 at 11:23 PM

    Near the end of the chapters Holden seems to become nicer and less judging. For instance when the prostitute is up in his room he doesn't pick out a hundred diffrent things that she does to annoy him. And he seemed generally interested in the taxi driver's opinion, unfortunately the taxi driver was sore. Perhaps this is all a sign that Holden is growing up, almost over night it seems. I also want to say that Holden is a very observant person which really speaks towards his intelligance.

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  9. BlairNovember 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    in this chapter holden is struggling on the topic of jane weather or not to call her.

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